Comments on: BMW Hydrogen 7 http://www.ecochauffeur.co.uk/eco-travel/bmw-hydrogen-7/ Luxury travel needn't cost the Earth Thu, 11 Mar 2010 09:42:05 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.3 By: bmw grille http://www.ecochauffeur.co.uk/eco-travel/bmw-hydrogen-7/#comment-2769 bmw grille Thu, 30 Aug 2007 09:34:15 +0000 http://www.ecochauffeur.co.uk/2007/01/bmw-hydrogen-7/#comment-2769 Some facts: the skin of the hindenberg was coated with a chemical akin to diesel fuel. friction from movable parts on the airship caused sparks that ignited this coating. that's what made the hindenberg blow up -- not the hydrogen powering it. hydrogen EVAPORATES when it comes into contact with air which it would certainly do in a crash that affected a fuel cell -- unlike petrochemicals, such as gasoline, which do not evaporate and may EXPLODE if an accident damages the fuel tank in the presence of heat from the engine, etc. Mike Strizki has designed two real-time hydrogen converting cars and a golf cart (one of the cars was made in collaboration with Ford Motor, the Genesis). These cars make hydrogen as-needed and don't require a fuel cell -- so the whole (non-existent) "problem" of storing the so-called "flammable" hydrogen has been solved. see http://www.hopewellproject.org/index.html. Some facts:

the skin of the hindenberg was coated with a chemical akin to diesel fuel. friction from movable parts on the airship caused sparks that ignited this coating. that’s what made the hindenberg blow up — not the hydrogen powering it.

hydrogen EVAPORATES when it comes into contact with air which it would certainly do in a crash that affected a fuel cell — unlike petrochemicals, such as gasoline, which do not evaporate and may EXPLODE if an accident damages the fuel tank in the presence of heat from the engine, etc.

Mike Strizki has designed two real-time hydrogen converting cars and a golf cart (one of the cars was made in collaboration with Ford Motor, the Genesis). These cars make hydrogen as-needed and don’t require a fuel cell — so the whole (non-existent) “problem” of storing the so-called “flammable” hydrogen has been solved. see http://www.hopewellproject.org/index.html.

]]> By: ichauffeur http://www.ecochauffeur.co.uk/eco-travel/bmw-hydrogen-7/#comment-2339 ichauffeur Tue, 12 Jun 2007 11:29:19 +0000 http://www.ecochauffeur.co.uk/2007/01/bmw-hydrogen-7/#comment-2339 There is a good article about the Hindenburg Disaster on <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hindenburg_disaster" rel="nofollow">Wiki</a>. Although my article does suggest that Hydrogen was the culprit, to date their is no firm conclusion regarding the cause of the disaster. From the article: "Also, while hydrogen tends to burn invisibly, the materials around it would be combustible and change the color of the fire." With regards to the suppression of hydrogen power by the oil companies... It is certainly possible. As the recent Eco Rally demonstrated, hydrogen powered cars from BMW and other manufacturers, are actually in production now. The biggest challenge seems to be getting the infastructure in place to feed these new vehicles. I think LPG is a good alternative to petrol, but still it is not a sustainable technology, in the way that hydrogen promises. There is a good article about the Hindenburg Disaster on Wiki. Although my article does suggest that Hydrogen was the culprit, to date their is no firm conclusion regarding the cause of the disaster. From the article: “Also, while hydrogen tends to burn invisibly, the materials around it would be combustible and change the color of the fire.”

With regards to the suppression of hydrogen power by the oil companies… It is certainly possible. As the recent Eco Rally demonstrated, hydrogen powered cars from BMW and other manufacturers, are actually in production now. The biggest challenge seems to be getting the infastructure in place to feed these new vehicles. I think LPG is a good alternative to petrol, but still it is not a sustainable technology, in the way that hydrogen promises.

]]> By: Peter Wright http://www.ecochauffeur.co.uk/eco-travel/bmw-hydrogen-7/#comment-2078 Peter Wright Wed, 06 Jun 2007 20:56:00 +0000 http://www.ecochauffeur.co.uk/2007/01/bmw-hydrogen-7/#comment-2078 Your article refers to the Hindenburg disaster as if hydrogen was the culprit of the disaster. Hydrogen was not. Hydrogen burns blue and only at the right mixture with oxygen. If concentrated enough hydrogen has the same effect as CO2. The Hindenburg, according to expert eyewitness reports burned yellow, which would be the canvass and sizing. Watch the film footage and, you will see for yourself, people running unharmed from the wreckage as the Hindenburg slowly sinks to the ground. Hydrogen as an alternative to oil has been around for years, could it be that the major automotive manufacturers together with the oil companies have supressed the development of hydrogen power ? After all the technology involved is very similar to LPG ! Your article refers to the Hindenburg disaster as if hydrogen was the culprit of the disaster.
Hydrogen was not. Hydrogen burns blue and only at the right mixture with oxygen. If concentrated enough hydrogen has the same effect as CO2. The Hindenburg, according to expert eyewitness reports burned yellow, which would be the canvass and sizing. Watch the film footage and, you will see for yourself, people running unharmed from the wreckage as the Hindenburg slowly sinks to the ground.
Hydrogen as an alternative to oil has been around for years, could it be that the major automotive manufacturers together with the oil companies have supressed the development of hydrogen power ? After all the technology involved is very similar to LPG !

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